非廣告信的設定?

[charles]

請問常常有客戶從yahoo.com寄信，但是被判斷為廣告信，是不是要從"例外情況"加入yahoo.com或者加入206.190.48.229即可以避免被當作廣告信?加入IP比較妥當還是加入yahoo.com?

謝謝！

[2006/7/5 下午 12:21:34] [5584] 206.190.48.229 要求 SMTP 服務 - 寄信人是 [email protected]

[2006/7/5 下午 12:22:30] [5584] 206.190.48.229 - 郵件內容已收到 (To:[email protected]) 2482061 bytes ( 45.0 KB/s)
[2006/7/5 下午 12:22:30] [5584] SMTP 服務中斷從 206.190.48.229 來的連線
[2006/7/5 下午 12:22:30] 發現 <josephXXXXXX> 的新郵件被 Reverse 機制判斷為廣告信, 故備存到 <spammail> 的信箱, 檔名是 _20060705122134-1674288032-5584.eml
[2006/7/5 下午 12:22:30] 儲存郵件到 <spammail> 的信箱, 檔名為 _20060705122134-1674288032-5584.eml 2482290bytes

[Arnor]

> set q=mx
> yahoo.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
yahoo.com MX preference = 1, mail exchanger = mx1.mail.yahoo.com
yahoo.com MX preference = 1, mail exchanger = mx2.mail.yahoo.com
yahoo.com MX preference = 1, mail exchanger = mx3.mail.yahoo.com
yahoo.com MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = mx4.mail.yahoo.com

yahoo.com nameserver = ns1.yahoo.com
yahoo.com nameserver = ns2.yahoo.com
yahoo.com nameserver = ns3.yahoo.com
yahoo.com nameserver = ns4.yahoo.com
yahoo.com nameserver = ns5.yahoo.com
mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.15
mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.71
mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.73
mx1.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.14
mx2.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.70
mx2.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.72
mx2.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.135
mx2.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.136
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.10
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.156.215.18
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.134
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.12
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.11
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 4.79.181.13
mx3.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 67.28.113.19
mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 66.218.86.254
mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 64.156.215.8
mx4.mail.yahoo.com internet address = 66.218.86.156
ns1.yahoo.com internet address = 66.218.71.63
>


206.190.48.229 這個 IP 都不在MX記錄上, 況且yahoo 又不用 SPF 機制,
所以你恐怕只能慢慢的把yahoo 往外寄的IP 加進例外清單了.
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[charles]

謝謝素大

再請問一下
不太了解為什麼這些yahoo寄送的IP都不再MX紀錄上，但是卻又可以寄出呢?

謝謝！

[yuchieh]

[ericjoung]

把YAHOO加入例外清單會遭遇多到不行的垃圾郵件. (USERNAME@*.YAHOO.*)
YAHOO因為有寄件SMTP伺服器陣列,所以不會所有的SMTP IP都有在MX紀錄中.
目前確認某IP為YAHOO 官方IP的唯一方法是對該IP進行反解(ping -a 206.190.48.229 ) 若IP反解得到的DNS屬於YAHOO的網域,則該IP就是YAHOO的SMTP.反之就"很有可能"是垃圾郵件主機.

你可以開啟垃圾信防治的PTR功能來辨識YAHOO的主機,這樣可以避免誤殺.

也可以試試看這個. http://www.raidenhttpd.com/jlbb/viewtopic.php?t=13339

這程式是我寫的,目的就是擋住偽裝成YAHOO和HINET的垃圾信.
目前已經可以有效阻擋來自浮動IP的垃圾信.並讓正常信件通過.
你有興趣可以試試看.

[Arnor]

yahoo 因為不採 hotmail / ms 推的 SPF 機制,
所以它目前是以它大牌在撐腰,
服務這麼多, 寄信server 又不固定, 一付我寄的信誰不收誰倒楣的心態...

> yahoo.com.tw
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
yahoo.com.tw text =

"Yahoo! Inc."

yahoo.com.tw nameserver = ns1.yahoo.com
yahoo.com.tw nameserver = ns2.yahoo.com
yahoo.com.tw nameserver = ns3.yahoo.com
yahoo.com.tw nameserver = ns4.yahoo.com
yahoo.com.tw nameserver = ns5.yahoo.com
ns1.yahoo.com internet address = 66.218.71.63
ns2.yahoo.com internet address = 66.163.169.170
ns3.yahoo.com internet address = 217.12.4.104
ns4.yahoo.com internet address = 68.142.196.63
ns5.yahoo.com internet address = 216.109.116.17
>


不然以hotmail 來看
> set q=txt
> hotmail.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
hotmail.com text =

"v=spf1 include:spf-a.hotmail.com include:spf-b.hotmail.com include:spf-
c.hotmail.com include:spf-d.hotmail.com ~all"

hotmail.com nameserver = ns1.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns2.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns3.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns4.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns5.msft.net
ns1.msft.net internet address = 207.68.160.190
ns2.msft.net internet address = 65.54.240.126
ns3.msft.net internet address = 213.199.144.151
ns4.msft.net internet address = 207.46.66.126
ns5.msft.net internet address = 65.55.238.126
>

> spf-a.hotmail.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
spf-a.hotmail.com text =

"v=spf1 ip4:209.240.192.0/19 ip4:65.52.0.0/14 ip4:131.107.0.0/16 ip4:157
.54.0.0/15 ip4:157.56.0.0/14 ip4:157.60.0.0/16 ip4:167.220.0.0/16 ip4:204.79.135
.0/24 ip4:204.79.188.0/24 ip4:204.79.252.0/24 ip4:207.46.0.0/16 ip4:199.2.137.0/
24 ~all"

hotmail.com nameserver = ns5.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns1.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns2.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns3.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns4.msft.net
ns1.msft.net internet address = 207.68.160.190
ns2.msft.net internet address = 65.54.240.126
ns3.msft.net internet address = 213.199.144.151
ns4.msft.net internet address = 207.46.66.126
ns5.msft.net internet address = 65.55.238.126
> spf-b.hotmail.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
spf-b.hotmail.com text =

"v=spf1 ip4:199.103.90.0/23 ip4:204.182.144.0/24 ip4:204.255.244.0/23 ip
4:206.138.168.0/21 ip4:64.4.0.0/18 ip4:65.54.128.0/17 ip4:207.68.128.0/18 ip4:20
7.68.192.0/20 ip4:207.82.250.0/23 ip4:207.82.252.0/23 ip4:209.1.112.0/23 ~all"

hotmail.com nameserver = ns4.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns5.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns1.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns2.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns3.msft.net
ns1.msft.net internet address = 207.68.160.190
ns2.msft.net internet address = 65.54.240.126
ns3.msft.net internet address = 213.199.144.151
ns4.msft.net internet address = 207.46.66.126
ns5.msft.net internet address = 65.55.238.126
> spf-c.hotmail.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
spf-c.hotmail.com text =

"v=spf1 ip4:209.185.128.0/23 ip4:209.185.130.0/23 ip4:209.185.240.0/22 i
p4:216.32.180.0/22 ip4:216.32.240.0/22 ip4:216.33.148.0/22 ip4:216.33.151.0/24 i
p4:216.33.236.0/22 ip4:216.33.240.0/22 ip4:216.200.206.0/24 ip4:204.95.96.0/20 ~
all"
hotmail.com nameserver = ns1.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns2.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns3.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns4.msft.net
hotmail.com nameserver = ns5.msft.net
ns1.msft.net internet address = 207.68.160.190
ns2.msft.net internet address = 65.54.240.126
ns3.msft.net internet address = 213.199.144.151
ns4.msft.net internet address = 207.46.66.126
ns5.msft.net internet address = 65.55.238.126
> spf-d.hotmail.com
Server: dns.hinet.net
Address: 168.95.1.1

Non-authoritative answer:
spf-d.hotmail.com text =

"v=spf1 ip4:65.59.232.0/23 ip4:65.59.234.0/24 ip4:209.1.15.0/24 ip4:64.4
1.193.0/24 ip4:216.34.51.0/24 ~all"

hotmail.COM nameserver = ns1.msft.net
hotmail.COM nameserver = ns2.msft.net
hotmail.COM nameserver = ns3.msft.net
hotmail.COM nameserver = ns4.msft.net
hotmail.COM nameserver = ns5.msft.net
ns1.msft.net internet address = 207.68.160.190
ns2.msft.net internet address = 65.54.240.126
ns3.msft.net internet address = 213.199.144.151
ns4.msft.net internet address = 207.46.66.126
ns5.msft.net internet address = 65.55.238.126
>

他已經把所有有可能hotmail 服務往外寄信時用的IP 都登記好了.
所以很明確.
_________________
*若是想問問題的話, 請務必不要塗改任何 IP, 網域資料, 您若不願貼上IP或網域, 請改以電子郵件來詢問. 謝謝您的配合.*
*若是回報疑似軟體的運行或邏輯或資料處理有誤的問題, 小弟很樂意去了解您的情況, 但請務必以最新版來做回報, 如果以郵件詢問, 請參考 http://www.raidenmaild.com/tw/feedback.html 的說明, 最好標題加個 RaidenMAILD 字樣, 才不致會遺漏了您的信唷. 謝謝您的配合^^*
*在版上發文請遵守網路禮儀, 並請持著虛心敘述問題請教他人, 凡發現違反的文, 均一律刪除為優先, 不另行通知喔.
*與使用者教學相長腦力激盪是我輩成就感的來源, 誠心希望您能不吝指教.
*雷電MAILD 知識庫文件 http://www.raidenmaild.com/tw/kb/

素還尊
Team John Long.
Email: [email protected]
公司網站 http://www.raidenmaild.com/company/

[charles]

感謝各位大大的意見，我會試著去做看看~